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Author Topic: [SUPPORT] beeeeer.org - tech support  (Read 2799 times)

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Re: [SUPPORT] beeeeer.org - tech support
« Reply #105 on: October 07, 2013, 04:15:55 pm »
Wait, what cpu do you have? If you go over 4 physical threads, but HT gives a total of 8 threads you're not going over the amount of available threads.

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550
4 "cores", 8 "threads" I believe.
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Re: [SUPPORT] beeeeer.org - tech support
« Reply #106 on: October 07, 2013, 04:49:38 pm »
@icedaddy:
http://ark.intel.com/products/33924
4 cores serving 4 threads (aka no hyper-threading)

@topnetdeal:
3200 network confirmations = ~54 hours
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some hours delay because i currently execute the payout script manually (monitoring)

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Re: [SUPPORT] beeeeer.org - tech support
« Reply #107 on: October 07, 2013, 05:00:49 pm »
@topnetdeal:
3200 network confirmations = ~54 hours
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some hours delay because i currently execute the payout script manually (monitoring)

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But I have status : Paid! from yesterday, and no money in wallet...

Link : http://xpm.syware.de/?address=ARHxzQXxyj7gbQwAjgHaLnHi1bu6GK5dN8&details=2
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Re: [SUPPORT] beeeeer.org - tech support
« Reply #108 on: October 07, 2013, 05:16:38 pm »
yup, you're right. it looks like Sy's web script is using and re-calculating all payouts using the overall block reward! that's wrong, because the pool charges a fee of 1% (or it was charging before i disabled it for a few days because of maintenance). I will notify Sy. Stay frosty.

/edit: your payout-blocks are not marked correctly too
it's possible that he's also using rounded values to do his calculations, i don't know

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Re: [SUPPORT] beeeeer.org - tech support
« Reply #109 on: October 07, 2013, 05:37:53 pm »
@xolokram:
In POST it says "Hyper-Threading detected and enabled". That is what lead me to wonder about it. Either the POST is wrong, Intel is wrong or Windows is reporting the wrong processor; my money is on the latter.
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Re: [SUPPORT] beeeeer.org - tech support
« Reply #110 on: October 07, 2013, 05:44:40 pm »
@icedaddy:
if it says hyperthreading detected & enabled it's not a Q9550
Intel's ARK Page is correct about the specification of the Q9550

@topnetdeal:
Sy says he's using the correct values. I will try to find if there's something wrong on my side
this is really odd, because i'm using the exact same values for payout calculation Sy is (saying he is) using for his web frontend.

/edit: i'm really confused now, more on this topic here: http://ppcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507.msg4616#msg4616

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Re: [SUPPORT] beeeeer.org - tech support
« Reply #111 on: October 07, 2013, 07:03:51 pm »
sorry for the double post

Sy is adding the orphaned blocks as valid blocks. but their value is 0 as you can see in the payout info on my site.

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Re: [SUPPORT] beeeeer.org - tech support
« Reply #112 on: October 07, 2013, 11:14:21 pm »
Wait, what cpu do you have? If you go over 4 physical threads, but HT gives a total of 8 threads you're not going over the amount of available threads.

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550
4 "cores", 8 "threads" I believe.

As xolo said, only 4 cores/4 threads. No HT on that chip.
More threads gave better perf all around then?

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Re: [SUPPORT] beeeeer.org - tech support
« Reply #113 on: October 08, 2013, 01:30:41 am »
@ivanlabrie

Strictly anecdotally yes it minimally seems to. There is something going on here that is over my head. The BIOS has hyper threading enabled. The POST says it is present and working. Windows only sees 4 cores. I have done some research and found folks saying that the POST lies, and that Windows lies. I would open up the silly box and look (actually I did) but you would have to remove the heat sink which is more than I care to tackle.
To make matters worse I asked the guy I got them from and he said they are XEON processors...
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Re: [SUPPORT] beeeeer.org - tech support
« Reply #114 on: October 08, 2013, 03:47:08 am »
@ivanlabrie

Strictly anecdotally yes it minimally seems to. There is something going on here that is over my head. The BIOS has hyper threading enabled. The POST says it is present and working. Windows only sees 4 cores. I have done some research and found folks saying that the POST lies, and that Windows lies. I would open up the silly box and look (actually I did) but you would have to remove the heat sink which is more than I care to tackle.
To make matters worse I asked the guy I got them from and he said they are XEON processors...

775 xeons are quad cores...trust me, your chip is a quad core with no HT.

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« Reply #115 on: Today at 05:27:40 pm »
One of my machines died so I went ahead and took the heat sink off, and it is a q9550. I turned off hyper threading in the BIOS and the behavior is the same. I think it is conclusively confirmed the behavior is NOT the result of hyper threading...
When I first started mining litecoins with cpuminer I ran a similar thread test and found after 4 threads performance degraded; I tried it again and sure enough the performance after 4 threads degrades rather than improving. Same with bfgminer. It would appear the anomaly is unique to primecoin and/or primeminer; I know the primecoin methodology is totally different than with other coins. The only other miner for primecoin I am aware of is the one ypool uses, that is not supported here; I dislike pools that require registration so I do not have a ypool account to test it with their miner.
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