Author Topic: Newbie Thread - How to get started mining Primecoin (Read 1277 times)

glassuser · « **on:** July 16, 2013, 10:05:35 pm »

Hi all,

So this is how I first started, I read on this thread on how to mine,

http://ppcointalk.org/index.php?topic=316.0 (this OP made a great post and I would like to thank him for teaching me)

I went ahead and did further research and a fellow user recommend this new client that mines at a much faster hashrate, around 10 times faster! You can find this thread here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=255782.0

I went ahead and installed it and it did indeed increase my hashrate, currently running at around 2000-3000 primespersec

ericwt · « **Reply #1 on:** July 16, 2013, 10:12:19 pm »

That much faster? Wow!

Was it easy to install?

Heck it is going to be later tonight before I get the chance to use it. Darn business and earning a living thing.

Tonight I shall have it installed.

glassuser · « **Reply #2 on:** July 16, 2013, 10:21:24 pm »

Yea it is! I couldn't believe it when i first started but its true lol

Yea definitely get that going right away when you get home, let me know when you do

ericwt · « **Reply #3 on:** July 16, 2013, 10:38:40 pm »

I am already home and at my business. My business is in Belize Central America.

I already have the faster version downloaded.

What I need is an hour of total quiet to concentrate and give it my full attention. As it is I have employees and customer phone calls and interruptions.

You had no problem getting the original client to work.

However it took me 6 hours to realize I added a space in the wrong place with the first command. I corrected that and the client started to work.

So what is next? Are you going to try mining on the cloud?

I am making notations on my speed with the original client so I will have something to compare it with when I try the new client.

I will let you know.

glassuser · « **Reply #4 on:** July 16, 2013, 10:47:02 pm »

oh cool!

I'm over in Miami, Florida. Yea it is good to give it your full attention so you can learn exactly what to do, honestly after you learn it its pretty easy to get it setup.

Yea you need to make sure the commands are correct hehe, I was thinking about mining in the cloud but i want to see how i do with my computers here first, is it profitable doing it in the cloud?

Make notations of your speed so you can see how fast it increases with the new one.

For the installation of the new one, just download the program and replace the primecoin and the primecoind files with the ones in your harddrive, then just restart the program again and put the commands again "setgenerate true -1" and youre set, it might take a little while to pick up, like 5 mins, but after that you are ready.

ericwt · « **Reply #5 on:** July 16, 2013, 11:15:39 pm »

Miami is a great place. I like tropical areas.

The only reason I mentioned it was because I left the world of commuting long ago.

If I get suck on the new optimization tonight I might ask you for some wisdom.

I do not know if the cloud pays off. But I am looking into it.

craslovell · « **Reply #6 on:** July 16, 2013, 11:49:27 pm »

Sunny King mentioned that PPS numbers do not necessarily reflect greater performance. In some of these builds, the people who create them reduced the sieve size to 100,000, which basically means yes you are doing more primepersec, but you are looking for less possible solutions.

On the thread you guys are mentioning, I've been running the HP2 client for a day or two now and it seems to be producing ok. If you really want to stick to something that you know will work, just run the primecoin-qt v.0.1.1 on the official download page.

ericwt · « **Reply #7 on:** July 17, 2013, 12:07:16 am »

Interesting, thank you. That is good information, craslovell.

Since I am doing this for fun and have multiple computers I shall keep the original client on my notebook and then try the optimized build on another computer.

If that works I will do, three computers on the original primecoin-qt v.0.1.1 and three computers on Sunny Ling's optimization.

If it does not work well I can always move back to the original client on all systems.

Quote from: craslovell on July 16, 2013, 11:49:27 pm

Sunny King mentioned that PPS numbers do not necessarily reflect greater performance. In some of these builds, the people who create them reduced the sieve size to 100,000, which basically means yes you are doing more primepersec, but you are looking for less possible solutions.

On the thread you guys are mentioning, I've been running the HP2 client for a day or two now and it seems to be producing ok. If you really want to stick to something that you know will work, just run the primecoin-qt v.0.1.1 on the official download page.

glassuser · « **Reply #8 on:** July 17, 2013, 03:25:49 am »

Quote from: craslovell on July 16, 2013, 11:49:27 pm

Sunny King mentioned that PPS numbers do not necessarily reflect greater performance. In some of these builds, the people who create them reduced the sieve size to 100,000, which basically means yes you are doing more primepersec, but you are looking for less possible solutions.

On the thread you guys are mentioning, I've been running the HP2 client for a day or two now and it seems to be producing ok. If you really want to stick to something that you know will work, just run the primecoin-qt v.0.1.1 on the official download page.

Oh really, so you believe the original is the best one then. It seems to make sense what you say.

glassuser · « **Reply #9 on:** July 17, 2013, 03:26:34 am »

Quote from: ericwt on July 17, 2013, 12:07:16 am

Interesting, thank you. That is good information, craslovell.

Since I am doing this for fun and have multiple computers I shall keep the original client on my notebook and then try the optimized build on another computer.

If that works I will do, three computers on the original primecoin-qt v.0.1.1 and three computers on Sunny Ling's optimization.

If it does not work well I can always move back to the original client on all systems.

Quote from: craslovell on July 16, 2013, 11:49:27 pm

Sunny King mentioned that PPS numbers do not necessarily reflect greater performance. In some of these builds, the people who create them reduced the sieve size to 100,000, which basically means yes you are doing more primepersec, but you are looking for less possible solutions.

On the thread you guys are mentioning, I've been running the HP2 client for a day or two now and it seems to be producing ok. If you really want to stick to something that you know will work, just run the primecoin-qt v.0.1.1 on the official download page.

So on the 5 computers I have running i was able to mine 12.95 immature prime coins one computer, I'm not sure what that means exactly

ericwt · « **Reply #10 on:** July 17, 2013, 04:19:37 am »

12.95 immature prime coins!

You have hit pay dirt my friend!

What it means?

I do not have a clue.

However it is great you seem to have got coins!

glassuser · « **Reply #11 on:** July 17, 2013, 04:22:28 am »

Quote from: ericwt on July 17, 2013, 04:19:37 am

12.95 immature prime coins!

You have hit pay dirt my friend!

What it means?

I do not have a clue.

However it is great you seem to have got coins!

hahah i was reading up on the immature thing, apparently i came up on some fork in the chain, maybe it could be due to the new client?

I just switched 2 comps back on the original client, lets see what happens then

craslovell · « **Reply #12 on:** July 17, 2013, 04:38:28 am »

When you mine a new block of primecoins, they will be "immature" until approximately 3200 more blocks have been mined on the network. The block target is 1 minute for primecoin, so it should literally take about 2 full days for your coins to be available in your balance.

Blocks are being mined faster than the target rate though, due to the amount of solving power on the network, so it's possible it will only be about 12 hours until those coins are available in your balance. At that point you can do whatever you want with them

glassuser · « **Reply #13 on:** July 17, 2013, 04:45:23 am »

Quote from: craslovell on July 17, 2013, 04:38:28 am

When you mine a new block of primecoins, they will be "immature" until approximately 3200 more blocks have been mined on the network. The block target is 1 minute for primecoin, so it should literally take about 2 full days for your coins to be available in your balance.

Blocks are being mined faster than the target rate though, due to the amount of solving power on the network, so it's possible it will only be about 12 hours until those coins are available in your balance. At that point you can do whatever you want with them

Ohh awesome, thanks for that, i've mined my first block then

I went ahead and switched over some of my computers to run on the original client to see which performs better, the computer that got the 12.95 coins was running on the new client.

Btw, do you know where the wallet.dat is stored in windows?

thanks!

glassuser · « **Reply #14 on:** July 17, 2013, 04:46:53 am »

hey craslovell, i see that you run your own mining pool for primecoin? could you explain more how that works please, I'm interested

craslovell · « **Reply #15 on:** July 17, 2013, 04:54:12 am »

Quote from: glassuser on July 17, 2013, 04:46:53 am

hey craslovell, i see that you run your own mining pool for primecoin? could you explain more how that works please, I'm interested

Unfortunately no I do not run my own pool, that would be cool though!

The only primecoin pool is what I would consider experimental right now and somewhat untested. I do applaud their efforts in trying to get it working 100% though! My honest opinion would be that you are better off taking your chances solo mining for now until a tried and true method for pool mining is released for primecoin.

As for locating your wallet.dat, click your windows or start button, and in the run/search bar, type %appdata% and hit enter. You should see a primecoin folder in the list after hitting enter, your wallet.dat is stored in that primecoin folder.

Another good way to get your wallet.dat file would be to run a daily backup of your wallet. Open your primecoin wallet, go to File and select Backup Wallet... then choose a name and where you want to save it!

glassuser · « **Reply #16 on:** July 17, 2013, 05:07:17 am »

Quote from: craslovell on July 17, 2013, 04:54:12 am

Quote from: glassuser on July 17, 2013, 04:46:53 am

hey craslovell, i see that you run your own mining pool for primecoin? could you explain more how that works please, I'm interested

Unfortunately no I do not run my own pool, that would be cool though!

The only primecoin pool is what I would consider experimental right now and somewhat untested. I do applaud their efforts in trying to get it working 100% though! My honest opinion would be that you are better off taking your chances solo mining for now until a tried and true method for pool mining is released for primecoin.

As for locating your wallet.dat, click your windows or start button, and in the run/search bar, type %appdata% and hit enter. You should see a primecoin folder in the list after hitting enter, your wallet.dat is stored in that primecoin folder.

Another good way to get your wallet.dat file would be to run a daily backup of your wallet. Open your primecoin wallet, go to File and select Backup Wallet... then choose a name and where you want to save it!

Oh yea you're right, this is for PPcoin.

I agree with mining, I guess right now solo mining is best since it is new and not many people have started on it, even though primecoin seems to be increasing fast according to the news lately.

Thank you for wallet.dat info, appreciate that, I'll start to do daily backups like you said to be able to locate them easier.

Are you currently mining also? How are your rigs doing?

blueoinkhead · « **Reply #17 on:** July 18, 2013, 03:40:23 am »

Been mining for aprox. 1 hour, no gold yet..

Stats:

Specs:

Lenovo Y500

CPU: Intel Core i7 3630QM @ 2.40GHz (HT Enabled)
GPU's: 2x Geforce GT 650m (Waiting for a proper cuda miner)

ericwt · « **Reply #18 on:** July 18, 2013, 04:48:07 am »

That seemed easy.

If I go to help- About Primecoin. is the optimized version Primecoinn v0.1.1.0-unk-beta?

glassuser · « **Reply #19 on:** July 18, 2013, 05:56:27 pm »

So ive mined another 12 XPMs with another laptop i have running the new client, so far no primecoins for the laptops running the old client. I recommend the new client right now.

glassuser · « **Reply #20 on:** July 18, 2013, 05:57:05 pm »

Quote from: blueoinkhead on July 18, 2013, 03:40:23 am

Been mining for aprox. 1 hour, no gold yet..

Stats:

Specs:

Lenovo Y500

CPU: Intel Core i7 3630QM @ 2.40GHz (HT Enabled)
GPU's: 2x Geforce GT 650m (Waiting for a proper cuda miner)

The primespersec is really high, that is great!

ericwt · « **Reply #21 on:** July 18, 2013, 06:56:45 pm »

Just started the optimized version of the client on one of the desktops.

Starting to figure out how I can tweak the performance.

blueoinkhead your primespersec are incredible!.

glassuser · « **Reply #22 on:** July 19, 2013, 02:42:39 am »

Quote from: ericwt on July 18, 2013, 06:56:45 pm

Just started the optimized version of the client on one of the desktops.

Starting to figure out how I can tweak the performance.

blueoinkhead your primespersec are incredible!.

I put one comp to start mining in the ypool.net mining pool, its good to put a couple comps on this to test it out. If you need help setting it up let me know.

ericwt · « **Reply #23 on:** July 19, 2013, 04:32:37 am »

What is the advantage to pooled mining with Primecoin? Would it take less system resources on my systems?

I can understand it with Bitcoins.

But for Primecoin right now?

Quote from: glassuser on July 19, 2013, 02:42:39 am

Quote from: ericwt on July 18, 2013, 06:56:45 pm

I put one comp to start mining in the ypool.net mining pool, its good to put a couple comps on this to test it out. If you need help setting it up let me know.

glassuser · « **Reply #24 on:** July 19, 2013, 06:35:56 pm »

Quote from: ericwt on July 19, 2013, 04:32:37 am

What is the advantage to pooled mining with Primecoin? Would it take less system resources on my systems?

I can understand it with Bitcoins.

But for Primecoin right now?

Quote from: glassuser on July 19, 2013, 02:42:39 am

Quote from: ericwt on July 18, 2013, 06:56:45 pm

I put one comp to start mining in the ypool.net mining pool, its good to put a couple comps on this to test it out. If you need help setting it up let me know.

Yea it will take up less resources and you pretty much share the profits with everyone on the pool, but if you can start mining more solo then do that instead. Right now i have the majority running solo and one on the pool.

ericwt · « **Reply #25 on:** July 19, 2013, 06:48:15 pm »

I am bringing another system online this weekend.

I will direct one computer at the pool and see how it goes.

Will ask questions if I get stuck.

btcbible · « **Reply #26 on:** July 20, 2013, 03:17:28 am »

I was getting the proper mining info before I synced up with the blockchain but now I'm getting the following error:

Method not found (code -32601)

Anyone else having this problem?

ericwt · « **Reply #27 on:** July 20, 2013, 03:40:30 am »

btcbible, that is what happens when you misspell a command or add an extra space.

btcbible · « **Reply #28 on:** July 20, 2013, 03:46:08 am »

Ah, thank you Eric. I was typing "mininginfo" instead of "getmininginfo"

ericwt · « **Reply #29 on:** July 20, 2013, 03:50:00 am »

Hey you are doing great.

I spend 6 hours mining and could not figure out why I was at 0 Primes per second.

I screwed up the "Setgenerate true-1" command.

Quote from: btcbible on July 20, 2013, 03:46:08 am

Ah, thank you Eric. I was typing "mininginfo" instead of "getmininginfo"

btcbible · « **Reply #30 on:** July 20, 2013, 03:56:42 am »

We both need to stop drinking so much n00b sauce lol.

btcbible · « **Reply #31 on:** July 20, 2013, 03:59:11 am »

How long would you think it takes to actually find a block at about 1500 PPS?

ericwt · « **Reply #32 on:** July 20, 2013, 04:13:51 am »

I have no idea. But I expect it is more of a random thing.

ericwt · « **Reply #33 on:** July 20, 2013, 04:21:04 am »

If there is a way to screw up tech things, I will find it. lol

That is okay. I never give up and eventually figure things out.

Quote from: btcbible on July 20, 2013, 03:56:42 am

We both need to stop drinking so much n00b sauce lol.

Thylacine · « **Reply #34 on:** July 20, 2013, 06:22:41 am »

Genuine noob here. Appears that I'm mining, I think;

Code: [Select]

{

                        "blocks" : 68611,

                        "currentblocksize" : 1000,

                        "currentblocktx" : 0,

                        "errors" : "",

                        "generate" : true,

                        "genproclimit" : -1,

                        "primespersec" : 294,

                        "pooledtx" : 0,

                        "testnet" : false

                        }

Some questions;

Is there documentation for the official client? (I had to browse the forums for ages before I could even figure out the 'getmininginfo' console command)
Do I need a wallet? How do I get one? Or do I already have one by installing the client? If so - what is my wallet address?
How will I know if I have successfully mined?

Any help appreciated.

News:

Author Topic: Newbie Thread - How to get started mining Primecoin (Read 1277 times)