Thank you. The transition from the "old payout system" to the "new payout system" did not happen the way I had expected from reading (but perhaps not understanding) the posts here, and in the places you mentioned (I gather it did not happen quite in the manner you had expected, or at least hoped, either). I was chugging along getting 3.xxx payouts and then suddenly bam! they stopped (Mon Oct 14 07:17:36 PDT 2013); there was no sign of a "bundled payout". Now I know that for a while you indicated you were doing the payouts manually and they were irregular, but never quite like this. Perhaps coincidently the payouts ceased immediately after I upgraded my miners; in reading the posts here I understood that the new miner was working under the "new payout system", but did switching before I got the "bundled payment" mess it up? Do they really have nothing to do with each other? Did I do something wrong when I installed the new miner? Did I miss something somewhere? While there are discussions about the new algorithm, muddled by pato's comments I don't understand and arguments about grom's miner and all sorts of stuff way over my head (no wonder you are tired, and I agree is sucks) are perhaps germane to somebody as a newbie they only confuse me, and consume the bulk of the ~30 posts you indicate.
Thanks to your information I now have the answers to many of my probably simplistic questions. Is the old payout system dead and buried? Yes. Will I see any more payouts from it? No. Does not receiving any payouts on the new payout system mean my miners are broken? Not necessarily. Are my miners working? It would seem so. When will I get payouts again? Not for a while, maybe a few days.
You could not have picked a worse time to get your feet wet; at least I got in a few weeks ago and was in on this roller coaster ride from the beginning. Things were not so chaotic back then, and hopefully will be peaceful again soon. I don't know enough about the old vs the new payout system yet to have an opinion as to its merits, but I can say the last week is not indicative of how this pool has run in the past.
By the "new client" do you mean xolokram's v6 or grom's? I have upgraded to xlokram's v6 (from v4) and to the best of my limited knowledge in interpreting the miner output and the statistics on the website I believe all the 9's I found are accounted for; I can't speak about grom's miner as I have never used it and am not familiar with it. There have been reports in this thread about anomalies in both miners, but I have net seen them.
The old payout system allowed for the extraction of JSON data allowing for monitoring and analysis of data from the pool, hopefully once the dust settles the new payout system will too, and using that I was just getting to the point where I was reasonably comfortable with how things worked, but now it is a whole new ball game.
I second what xolokram said about making a new thread for your miner project.
@(Moderators: Excelsior, craslovell):
Move all the ancillary posts to their own threads?